Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

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Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby danielson » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:20 pm

I've got a bunch of duplicates that i just deleted from Simplenotes but when syncing with CN,
they all get back in, so i guess we have to be content with oneway sync from CN to SN?
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby CintaNotes Developer » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:44 pm

No, the sync is both ways. Are you sure that the notes were indeed deleted in Simplenote?
Where did you delete the notes, online or in some other client?
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby danielson » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:27 pm

You're right.
What didn't help me was the fact that i had also used another program for Outlook and i've had to make quite a few deletions.

When syncing, CN shows 'downloading' the number of notes deleted (which i had done online) when in fact, it is simply removing them from CN database. Should the term 'downloading' be changed to 'removing' so that we understand from which side sync is giving priority?
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby Noddy330 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:47 pm

What works best for me is to do deletions, tidy ups, etc in CintaNotes.
I can confirm sync works both ways.
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby CintaNotes Developer » Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:10 pm

danielson wrote:You're right.
What didn't help me was the fact that i had also used another program for Outlook and i've had to make quite a few deletions.

When syncing, CN shows 'downloading' the number of notes deleted (which i had done online) when in fact, it is simply removing them from CN database. Should the term 'downloading' be changed to 'removing' so that we understand from which side sync is giving priority?

The problem here is that with the new Simplenote API, CN has to download a note to see what is to be done with it: add, change or delete. But we'll try to find a way to improve the wording.
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby danielson » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:45 pm

Thanks for the follow-up Alex.

If it's like trying to remember someone's name you haven't seen in a while, you'll probably find a solution while working on something else.
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby CintaNotes Developer » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:45 am

danielson wrote:Thanks for the follow-up Alex.

If it's like trying to remember someone's name you haven't seen in a while, you'll probably find a solution while working on something else.


I think we'll just replace this message with something more neutral like "Retreiving updates information")
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby danielson » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:01 pm

Did you mean 'retrieving' ? ;)

Dat sounds just fine!
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby CintaNotes Developer » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:09 am

Yes, sorry for my bad spelling)
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby danielson » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:13 pm

That's a common mistake Alex.

Being bilingual (French/English with a bit of Italian) i find myself confronted the anguish of choosing which word has double consonants or not as there are quite a few similar words to those languages.
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby CintaNotes Developer » Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:53 pm

I feel your pain, as these are all languages of Roman descent, if I'm not mistaken ;) No, wait, English is Germanic.. but probably this doesn't help much anyway :)
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby dutch_in_seattle » Wed May 08, 2013 7:37 pm

I have a question that's related to this. First off, thanks so much for implementing this feature! It makes CintaNotes the perfect note-taking tool for me.

After I synced to SimpleNote with the new version 2.2, I had duplicates of most notes on the SimpleNote website, with one note having the #section/XXXX tag and the other without that tag. I thought I'd simply delete all notes on the SimpleNote website to start fresh (I emptied the trash). I would expect that when I subsequently sync from CintaNotes, all my local notes will be uploaded to the SimpleNote website, as none of them exist there, but they do locally. The opposite is happening, though: all my local notes are deleted and I end up without any notes locally (reflecting the situation on the SimpleNote website), even if I select 'Take local' as the conflict resolution policy. Am I missing something here? What do I need to do to upload all my local notes to SimpleNote?

Thanks!
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby dutch_in_seattle » Mon May 13, 2013 1:35 pm

Has anyone seen this, too?

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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby CintaNotes Developer » Mon May 13, 2013 2:13 pm

Hi Ron,

dutch_in_seattle wrote:I have a question that's related to this. First off, thanks so much for implementing this feature! It makes CintaNotes the perfect note-taking tool for me.

Welcome! It was a very needed feature for us as well :)

dutch_in_seattle wrote:After I synced to SimpleNote with the new version 2.2, I had duplicates of most notes on the SimpleNote website, with one note having the #section/XXXX tag and the other without that tag. I thought I'd simply delete all notes on the SimpleNote website to start fresh (I emptied the trash). I would expect that when I subsequently sync from CintaNotes, all my local notes will be uploaded to the SimpleNote website, as none of them exist there, but they do locally. The opposite is happening, though: all my local notes are deleted and I end up without any notes locally (reflecting the situation on the SimpleNote website), even if I select 'Take local' as the conflict resolution policy. Am I missing something here?


Sorry for this. The duplication probably happened due to you changing the number of sections to synchronize before doing the sync in the new version - can it be the case? I need to do some additional testing here.

But after that the CN's behavior was actually correct: how could it know that you wanted to keep the notes that were deleted online? Sync works both ways, when you delete notes online, they get deleted in CN. (The conflict resolution policy only dictates which version of the same note should be preferred when it was changed both online and in CN.)

What do I need to do to upload all my local notes to SimpleNote?

Ok so you want CN to treat all your notes as "new" for Simplenote. There's a way to do this: in the File/Synchronization dialog, change your Simplenote login
to something else (this doesn't have to be a valid SN login), press OK, read the warning, press OK again. Then change your SN login back to the correct one. Now all the sync state will be deleted, and all notes in CN will be considered new.
If you sync now, CN will upload ALL notes up to SN. BUT - you'll get a lot of duplicates now again, which you'll have to delete, because it will also consider the notes in SN to be new and will download them.

I think it is actually easier to handle this in other way:
1) Export CN notes to XML
2) Delete all notes in CN
3) Empty recycle bin
4) Sync with SN to delete all notes there as well
5) Import XML
6) Sync with SN to upload notes

The second approach is easier because you won't have to weed out the duplicates again, but it is also more dangerous because it involves deleting all notes from SN, so please use at your own risk!
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby dutch_in_seattle » Mon May 13, 2013 2:57 pm

Your second approach doesn't work. All 275 were imported successfully, but only 10 (seemingly random) notes were actually synchronized with SimpleNote and I end up with only these 10 notes in CintaNotes.
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby CintaNotes Developer » Mon May 13, 2013 3:08 pm

dutch_in_seattle wrote:Your second approach doesn't work. All 275 were imported successfully, but only 10 (seemingly random) notes were actually synchronized with SimpleNote and I end up with only these 10 notes in CintaNotes.

That's really strange. And what about SN, how many notes are there now?
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby dutch_in_seattle » Mon May 13, 2013 3:58 pm

The same 10 that are now in my local Cintanotes.
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby CintaNotes Developer » Mon May 13, 2013 4:28 pm

Really beats me why this happened.. But you still got that XML, right? I suggest you do the following now:

1. Create a new CN notebook with File/New
2. Import the XML with 200+ notes (import with sections!).
3. Configure SN syncing of all needed sections
4. Sync it.

This should fix the things up.
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby dutch_in_seattle » Tue May 14, 2013 1:57 pm

That seems to do the trick. Thanks!
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Re: Only oneway sync to Simplenote ?

Postby CintaNotes Developer » Wed May 15, 2013 6:14 am

Welcome, and sorry for all the trouble!
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